So, here's the deal.  I just got an espresso machine for my house and decided not to skimp on the grinder.  I know these options are overkill for home but I want something I can take to competitions and will do the best job possible.  I have it narrowed down to the Compak K10 Conical, Mahlkonig V30 Vario, and the Anfim Super Caimano.

I've had my heart set on the Compak for a long time and absolutely love the conical burrs but now that the time has finally come to get my dream grinder, I want to get your input in case there's something about these grinders I haven't considered.  Keep in mind that this is not going in a shop so volume is not an issue.  Also, I'm ignoring the Robur because I don't think the extra cost justifies the perks in a home setting - just want to nip that in the bud before everyone yells at me for overlooking it.  ;)

I know that this is an extremely subjective topic and that all 3 of these grinders will do an incredible job so I'm not trying to nail down an objective best.  I would just like to know what you guys like and dislike about them and which you think would be most appropriate for home and competition use.

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from having used the k-10 WBC in my shop over the last 5 months, (and you'll definitely want the WBC), i highly recommend it. i still have to get a review up for it at some point, but it's a hoss of a grinder and the mouthfeel of the espresso is just so syrupy. totally takes away that bright harsh profile you get from a super jolly. i dislike the v30's (too messy, flat burrs, clumping) but haven't used a super caimano.

get the k-10 WBC. you won't regret it. chriscoffee.com has a good price on em too

http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/coffee/commercialgrinders/compa...
Agree flat burr grinders tend to accentuate brightness compared to conical. However, that does not mean even if pulling a SO like even a bright Kenya or Ethiopia the shot will be harsh if you properly grind and dose and appropriate shot temp and timing and volume. We pull just such SO's all the time with SJ's and Majors.

It may indeed be easier to pull said shots with a large conical versus large flat burr, but easier does not necessarily mean better shot. BTW, even the lowly Rocky tied the Robur overall in shot quality beating it some rounds in the H-B Titan Grinder Shoot out.
I haven't tried the k-10 WBC but it seems to get compared to a Robur a lot still being quite a bit cheaper which does make it tempting. Someone who knows the k10 inside out could tell if it stashes ground coffee inside like robur. If so, it's not the best grinder for home. Is there a k-10 with timer available?

We used to have the k-30 at our shop. The portafilter holder is excellent and really nice to use. It distributes the coffee to top end of the portafilter and there was some clumping but neither of them was really a problem. Besides mahlkönig has released a new version of k-30 which should address some of the issues mentioned. As for the messiness.. It's one of the cleanest/easiest grinders I've seen.

Large volumes are where k30 just doesn't manage. Despite it has won some kind of design-prize it is built like a thermos bottle. Once it get's hot, it stays hot. The motors is too fast in relation to the smallish burrs.

I'm having timer modded Anfim's super caimano as my home/competition grinder and I'm pretty satisfied with it. It's small and light and easy to move around. There's no clumping and the distribution of the doser is good. It's also quite economical compared to other big grinders.

You should check out Mazzer's Major E as well. It's one nice grinder.
the k-10 wbc has a little plastic guard at the top of the doser to meet ETL standards which is easily removable (pop the plastic collar cover off and remove 2 screws). once the guard is gone for good, you can vacuum / sweep the 5-6g of grounds that accumulate in the chute. that's the only place on a k-10 i've seen grounds accumulate.

i have a non-timered doserless k-10 that has a lot more staling problems, but that's partially because i use it for decaf. there are timered versions but you're looking at $500 more for those.
First of all, thanks for the responses, guys.

I had my mind all made up to go with the K-10 but had the chance to put this question to a well-respected coffee professional who described the K-10 as "cheap, plastic trash." He recommended the Anfim, siting reliability and consistency issues with the K-10 and ending the conversation with, "If you have the opportunity to put an Anfim in your house, you put an Anfim in your house."

Have any of you had a bad experience with a Compak? I do really like the Super Caimano but I have a hard time letting go of those conical burrs.
Don't think - K10 WBC!!!

Anfim Super Caimano is super cool for sure, but SUPER expensive - especially for a flat-burr grinder(kinda like the K30 ES). And replacement Ti burrs for the Anfim run 230 I believe??

Damn...
what? cheap plastic trash? the only plastic on a k-10 is the grounds tray, the doser cover (which i always leave off anyways) and part of the collar cover! the thing weights like 30 lbs! how on earth is that cheap plastic trash? maybe he meant the normal k-10.

get the k-10 WBC. once you have it in your possession, you will be posting like crazy thanking us. if you still doubt, drive down to asheville and you can play around on my k-10.

and by the way, i was turned on to the compak k-10 WBC by, of all people, Rob Forsyth, who's on the certification committee for the WBC and used to be the president of the Australasian Specialty Coffee Association. so i don't know which industry professional you were talking to, but i'll trust Rob for my money's worth.
I like our K-10 WBC conical grinder! We had a bit of a hopper problem but they fixed it no problem! The only other issue was when one of them started heating up because it is not mounted straight, however I believe it may have been because of our employees turning it upside down when we first go it... Do Not turn up or over the motor mounts from a collar/ neck area and if turned up it can off set the motor. I can't fault the maker on this one they have been very supportive and even called to check up on things after we first opened. We own 2 of them. We made the hot head the decaf so it is fine now.
Alright, I know it's been a while but I'm still in grinder decision lockdown crisis mode. I feel like a little kid having to choose which parent to live with.

I'm inclined toward the Compak and the only thing that gives me pause is the complete void of information regarding the "in-the-cup" results from the Anfim. I've spent countless hours reading every forum thread and article I can find about each grinder and everyone is talking about how accurate/consistent the Super Caimano is but no one seems to be talking about the "in-the-cup" results. Every now and then, someone will casually remark on how they would put it up next to the Robur but no one focuses on this.

Does anyone here have experience on both the Compak K10 WBC and the Anfim Super Caimano v2? The Super Caimano has a great doser and timer but if the shots it produces are generally inferior to the K10, those are niceties I'd be willing to forgo. On the other hand, if the shots are on par with one another, I'd much rather have it all in one package.

I could easily chalk this up to the difference between flat and conical burrs except that there are mutterings about how the Caimano burr set may act in such a way that it rivals the signature syrupy body of the big conicals.

Any thoughts?
I have a K30 WBC in my house. I have a K10 WBC being delivered tomorrow. I can give you some side by side comparison soon.

Ryan Soeder said:
Alright, I know it's been a while but I'm still in grinder decision lockdown crisis mode. I feel like a little kid having to choose which parent to live with.

I'm inclined toward the Compak and the only thing that gives me pause is the complete void of information regarding the "in-the-cup" results from the Anfim. I've spent countless hours reading every forum thread and article I can find about each grinder and everyone is talking about how accurate/consistent the Super Caimano is but no one seems to be talking about the "in-the-cup" results. Every now and then, someone will casually remark on how they would put it up next to the Robur but no one focuses on this.

Does anyone here have experience on both the Compak K10 WBC and the Anfim Super Caimano v2? The Super Caimano has a great doser and timer but if the shots it produces are generally inferior to the K10, those are niceties I'd be willing to forgo. On the other hand, if the shots are on par with one another, I'd much rather have it all in one package.

I could easily chalk this up to the difference between flat and conical burrs except that there are mutterings about how the Caimano burr set may act in such a way that it rivals the signature syrupy body of the big conicals.

Any thoughts?
Any chance you could update the thread with your thoughts on the K30 vs. K10 for home use, Jackson? I recently picked up a Baratza Vario to use as a decaf/secondary grinder for my K10, and I was so sold on the timed aspect and lack of waste that I've pretty much used it exclusively for the last few months. I've been giving some serious thought to swapping the K10 for a K30.
Chris,

Since I've had my K10, I've been spoiled rotten by it's amazing grind quality - so beware, I'll be the first to admit I am biased by it. I change coffee's all the time so the K30 was not a good match for me. I can single dose with my k10 which is nice, because I drink 2-3 different coffee's a day. The problems with changing coffee and keeping beans in the hopper (w/the k30) was the first big deal breaker for me as a home user. If you like to run a couple pounds of coffee straight before switching, the K30 might be a great grinder for you. It is very quick, silent and efficient. Just know that it takes several pounds to break in the burrs and it likes to have beans in the hopper for it to function/dose properly. I used a dosing funnel from Orphan Espresso with my K30 and barely had a grain of coffee spill out of the porta-filter so it was very tidy when used that way. I do feel that the grind quality of the K10 is noticeably superior to the K30. I would say the grind from the k30 is better than the baratza vario, but I couldn't go back to either now that I'm used to my k10. Of course, to each his own - the k30 still makes a darn fine cup and is top notch at what it does. Hope that helps, Jackson

Chris Birkett said:
Any chance you could update the thread with your thoughts on the K30 vs. K10 for home use, Jackson? I recently picked up a Baratza Vario to use as a decaf/secondary grinder for my K10, and I was so sold on the timed aspect and lack of waste that I've pretty much used it exclusively for the last few months. I've been giving some serious thought to swapping the K10 for a K30.

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