Comments - 2nd Argentinean Barista Championship review + thoughts. - Barista Exchange2024-03-29T02:12:51Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=1688216%3ABlogPost%3A90270&xn_auth=noI want to upload the videos o…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-30:1688216:Comment:911472008-05-30T01:22:54.515ZFede Cabrerahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FedeCabrera
I want to upload the videos of the finalist's performances at YouTube, but I'm not able to do it. Can anyone help me with this task (the videos exceed the 100MB & 10 minutes).<br />
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Thanks!
I want to upload the videos of the finalist's performances at YouTube, but I'm not able to do it. Can anyone help me with this task (the videos exceed the 100MB & 10 minutes).<br />
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Thanks! Peter,
Your're right I'm sur…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:907002008-05-28T21:51:28.739ZFede Cabrerahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FedeCabrera
Peter,<br />
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Your're right I'm sure much worse things coudl happen within a developed market's competition, but as this one is easier to solve, an emergency plan shouldn't be difficult to apply.<br />
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Rgds,<br />
Federico
Peter,<br />
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Your're right I'm sure much worse things coudl happen within a developed market's competition, but as this one is easier to solve, an emergency plan shouldn't be difficult to apply.<br />
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Rgds,<br />
Federico It seems that they need an "e…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:905412008-05-28T13:55:15.605ZPeter Tamhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/PeterTam
It seems that they need an "emergency plan" for that situation. When it happened, find a better way to get the better competitors, as possible. Since it is not strict legel rules, it should be easy to solve that problem. In most cases, there are much worse things happened during such a thing, for much worse reasons.
It seems that they need an "emergency plan" for that situation. When it happened, find a better way to get the better competitors, as possible. Since it is not strict legel rules, it should be easy to solve that problem. In most cases, there are much worse things happened during such a thing, for much worse reasons. Alex,
Unfortunaly with the a…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:905342008-05-28T12:46:12.436ZFede Cabrerahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FedeCabrera
Alex,<br />
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Unfortunaly with the actual rules, the quality of the beverage was not take in consideration for the finals, as only 3 baristas weren't disqualified.<br />
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Regards,<br />
Federico
Alex,<br />
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Unfortunaly with the actual rules, the quality of the beverage was not take in consideration for the finals, as only 3 baristas weren't disqualified.<br />
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Regards,<br />
Federico Federico,
The problem is Arg…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:905322008-05-28T12:39:43.135ZFede Cabrerahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FedeCabrera
Federico,<br />
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The problem is Argentine is that most competitors are amateur baristas or home enthusiasts (only 2 were pro baristas), that have the proper techniques but not the right equipment (or time) to practice for the national championship.<br />
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What I was trying to explain was, that some of those baristas with very little training (and the right tools) will be able to finish their performance time within their 15+1 minutes (they have a month to practice before the WBC) ...<br />
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Even if they didn't,…
Federico,<br />
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The problem is Argentine is that most competitors are amateur baristas or home enthusiasts (only 2 were pro baristas), that have the proper techniques but not the right equipment (or time) to practice for the national championship.<br />
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What I was trying to explain was, that some of those baristas with very little training (and the right tools) will be able to finish their performance time within their 15+1 minutes (they have a month to practice before the WBC) ...<br />
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Even if they didn't, what is more important for the development of the barista profession in an "in development market", that a national champion at the WBC finishes within the 15+1 minutes (with a crappy performance), or to make a great performance (even if he/she is disqualified)?<br />
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What I was trying to explain is that in some countries, where the barista profession is not developed yet, it could be more important to focus in quality than in time.<br />
Once you have the quality/performance problem solved, you can focus in the time issue, which I think is an easier/faster flaw to solve (most of the disqualified baristas only exceed the performance time by seconds).<br />
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In my opinion, avoiding the automatic disqualification in the national competitions, will help “in development markets” to send their most skilled baristas to the WBC.<br />
Instead you could still take 1 point per each second exceeding the 15 minutes, and the barista with the higher score goes to the National Finals/WBC.<br />
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I don’t think sending 3 baristas directly to the finals (without taking in consideration their scores) just because they finished their performances in due time, will be helping the development of the barista profession.<br />
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Hope to see you in Copenhagen! Thanks for blogging the Champ…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:904972008-05-28T07:43:35.109ZAlex Negranzahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/AlexNegranza
Thanks for blogging the Championships, Fede. I have enjoyed reading about the issues and struggles of a developing profession.<br />
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"In the barista profession, is really time more important than quality? Than passion and knowledge??"<br />
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Unfortunately, passion means nothing in a comptetion unless you know how to convey that in the quality of your beverage. Even the most passionate and skilled baristas I know of, were somewhat shaken at times during their competition at USBC. As far as knowledge, as…
Thanks for blogging the Championships, Fede. I have enjoyed reading about the issues and struggles of a developing profession.<br />
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"In the barista profession, is really time more important than quality? Than passion and knowledge??"<br />
<br />
Unfortunately, passion means nothing in a comptetion unless you know how to convey that in the quality of your beverage. Even the most passionate and skilled baristas I know of, were somewhat shaken at times during their competition at USBC. As far as knowledge, as long as you can talk about everything in front of you, that's all that matters in a competition setting.<br />
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Thank you again for blogging! Good luck at National Championships! In my country, we have a very…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:904922008-05-28T07:09:10.144ZFederico Bolañoshttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FedericoBolanos
In my country, we have a very small and underdeveloped espresso market, professional baristas didn´t exist a couple of years ago and still are very few, but as you know, we held our very 1st barista competition this year, so I really understand your concern.<br />
However, I belive that If someone wants to compete successfully with the best in a certain field, he/she should demand himself a higher standard...the highest standard, not ask for lower standards. Challenging yourself to perform as good or…
In my country, we have a very small and underdeveloped espresso market, professional baristas didn´t exist a couple of years ago and still are very few, but as you know, we held our very 1st barista competition this year, so I really understand your concern.<br />
However, I belive that If someone wants to compete successfully with the best in a certain field, he/she should demand himself a higher standard...the highest standard, not ask for lower standards. Challenging yourself to perform as good or better than the top players in world is the only way to learn and improve to their level.<br />
If different regulations are needed due to particular market conditions, maybe the amateur barista and cofee enthusiasts should participate or organize barista jams that incorporate an informal competition (with flexible/different regulations and/or longer competition times) that aims to educate and motivate towards moving to a higher level in the future.<br />
Kind regards,<br />
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Federico Bolaños Thanks Dale, Nik and Peter fo…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-28:1688216:Comment:904522008-05-28T01:26:51.368ZFede Cabrerahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FedeCabrera
Thanks Dale, Nik and Peter for your messages.<br />
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I'm planning to visit Copenhagen to start the promotion of my project, and to enjoy the Conference (as I wasn't able to enjoy it last year).<br />
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I think I'll be signing in to the National Championships of my country, at least until I have one more chance to go to the WBC (I have an unfinished business).<br />
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The 1° and 2° place of the Argentinean Championship 2008, fortunately were covered by the only two professional baristas that sign in for the…
Thanks Dale, Nik and Peter for your messages.<br />
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I'm planning to visit Copenhagen to start the promotion of my project, and to enjoy the Conference (as I wasn't able to enjoy it last year).<br />
<br />
I think I'll be signing in to the National Championships of my country, at least until I have one more chance to go to the WBC (I have an unfinished business).<br />
<br />
The 1° and 2° place of the Argentinean Championship 2008, fortunately were covered by the only two professional baristas that sign in for the competition, and I hope they make a great performance at the WBC ... I just noticed that with the actual rules, we could be sending crappy baristas for our country, and I wanted to raise the attention to this before it was too late.<br />
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Best regards,<br />
Federico Thanks for posting on this! I…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-27:1688216:Comment:904192008-05-27T23:11:45.374ZDale Harrishttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DaleHarris
Thanks for posting on this! It helps me realise how lucky I am to be in a country where the coffee industry is supporting and driving it's Baristas/workers to excel.<br />
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It sounds to me that a lot of work and investment is needed at a grassroots level to raise the Barista crafts importance in the eyes of employers and the coffee industry in Argentina if improvements are to be made.<br />
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Rest assured that if you feel this way so will other Baristas and together you may be able to encourage development…
Thanks for posting on this! It helps me realise how lucky I am to be in a country where the coffee industry is supporting and driving it's Baristas/workers to excel.<br />
<br />
It sounds to me that a lot of work and investment is needed at a grassroots level to raise the Barista crafts importance in the eyes of employers and the coffee industry in Argentina if improvements are to be made.<br />
<br />
Rest assured that if you feel this way so will other Baristas and together you may be able to encourage development before next year?<br />
<br />
Best of luck. Fede my friend, im so sad for…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-05-27:1688216:Comment:903602008-05-27T19:19:27.050Znik orosihttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/nikorosi
Fede my friend, im so sad for this all, i was hopping for you to see again in Copenhagen but...<br />
Its hard to be the first, not in terms of wining but in terms of beginning all, here is very hard to deal with all but there is a progress, remember, its not all about winning, its how much you learn from that specific or championship or 'issue'. Iv decided not to compete anymore after this wbc, after all, im 37...just dont worry my friend, live those 'boludas' to find what is real meaning of being a…
Fede my friend, im so sad for this all, i was hopping for you to see again in Copenhagen but...<br />
Its hard to be the first, not in terms of wining but in terms of beginning all, here is very hard to deal with all but there is a progress, remember, its not all about winning, its how much you learn from that specific or championship or 'issue'. Iv decided not to compete anymore after this wbc, after all, im 37...just dont worry my friend, live those 'boludas' to find what is real meaning of being a BARISTA!