water softener questions? - Barista Exchange2024-03-28T12:54:53Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/water-softener-questions?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A1113053&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNo, don't. Buy an RO for home…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-27:1688216:Comment:11131382011-04-27T14:33:18.781ZJoshua Longsdorfhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Yeshi
No, don't. Buy an RO for home, buy water from a retailer. It's fairly cheap. I did it for six months and wouldn't have done it any other way. Of course I only used 16 gallons a day but still that was only like 6 or 7 dollars.
No, don't. Buy an RO for home, buy water from a retailer. It's fairly cheap. I did it for six months and wouldn't have done it any other way. Of course I only used 16 gallons a day but still that was only like 6 or 7 dollars. No problem, you're right, I t…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-27:1688216:Comment:11130532011-04-27T14:23:17.100ZScotthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Scott890
<p>No problem, you're right, I think I got the impression you where implying a cost saving from using well water. Still if you are using a home or small line pressure RO, you need to factor in the waste water, those things dump about four gallons for every one gallon of product water. Yes you could recover it (and in parts of California I'm told you have to by law) and recycle it ( which incidentally was against the law here in Washington until last year). Small line pressure ROs are pretty…</p>
<p>No problem, you're right, I think I got the impression you where implying a cost saving from using well water. Still if you are using a home or small line pressure RO, you need to factor in the waste water, those things dump about four gallons for every one gallon of product water. Yes you could recover it (and in parts of California I'm told you have to by law) and recycle it ( which incidentally was against the law here in Washington until last year). Small line pressure ROs are pretty slow producers.</p>
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<p>We have used GE Merlin systems with great success. But that's only one of many options. You can always find a local WF company for your needs. BTW, I was a customer of Cirqua's for over 10 years. Matter of fact I'm going to repair a Cirqua N300 today, if the parts arrive. Take care!</p> Scott, pretty sure you miss u…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-27:1688216:Comment:11125982011-04-27T06:37:21.756ZJoshua Longsdorfhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Yeshi
Scott, pretty sure you miss understood me. I clearly said not to use a well. What I suggested is to not have a softener and just buy reverse osmosis, it's fairly cheap. Especially if you factor in filters at home plus municipal water prices. Unless he has RO, which I doubt is the case because as I stated you wouldn't need a softener. So again just to make my point clear. Buy reverse osmosis or distilled at a local store, no matter where I've lived it's been under 40 cents per gallon, which…
Scott, pretty sure you miss understood me. I clearly said not to use a well. What I suggested is to not have a softener and just buy reverse osmosis, it's fairly cheap. Especially if you factor in filters at home plus municipal water prices. Unless he has RO, which I doubt is the case because as I stated you wouldn't need a softener. So again just to make my point clear. Buy reverse osmosis or distilled at a local store, no matter where I've lived it's been under 40 cents per gallon, which means not buying a softener or flying through filters at home. It mostly likely will be a wash on price or fairly negligible. Then if you want to target a specific water TDS use Cirqua AB. They're not terribly priced assuming you have an EIN and can order through Cirqua. It will be the best water you can buy and far less plumbing worries. Hi Joshua - First, it sounds…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-27:1688216:Comment:11130282011-04-27T06:14:45.691ZScotthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Scott890
<p>Hi Joshua - First, it sounds like he is treating the water at home. Second, wells are expensive, it's ground water so it's <em>more</em> likely to be hard (requiring additional filtration equipment) and if it's not maintained by a licensed municipal water operator could be looked at by the local health department as something akin to selling home baked pastries . Just doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble to me.</p>
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<p>take care!</p>
<p>Hi Joshua - First, it sounds like he is treating the water at home. Second, wells are expensive, it's ground water so it's <em>more</em> likely to be hard (requiring additional filtration equipment) and if it's not maintained by a licensed municipal water operator could be looked at by the local health department as something akin to selling home baked pastries . Just doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble to me.</p>
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<p>take care!</p> If you have the jugs why not…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-27:1688216:Comment:11130232011-04-27T05:31:12.288ZJoshua Longsdorfhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Yeshi
<p>If you have the jugs why not just spend the 40 cents a gallon on RO then treat it. If you're filling at home water costs $ too unless you have a well which then I'd would for sure go for the reverse osmosis.</p>
<p>If you have the jugs why not just spend the 40 cents a gallon on RO then treat it. If you're filling at home water costs $ too unless you have a well which then I'd would for sure go for the reverse osmosis.</p> Sure thing Eli! I don't know…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-27:1688216:Comment:11125662011-04-27T02:14:00.371ZScotthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Scott890
Sure thing Eli! I don't know where you are but having your water tested would be a good idea. Heck, keep a TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) meter and a hardness test kit with your equipment. While I see people mostly under-treating their water, I do occasionally see people over-treating their water. For example if you're in Portland, OR, you generally only need a taste and odor filter/sediment and carbon blocks to remove the copious amounts of chlorine. Most of Portland's water being less then a…
Sure thing Eli! I don't know where you are but having your water tested would be a good idea. Heck, keep a TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) meter and a hardness test kit with your equipment. While I see people mostly under-treating their water, I do occasionally see people over-treating their water. For example if you're in Portland, OR, you generally only need a taste and odor filter/sediment and carbon blocks to remove the copious amounts of chlorine. Most of Portland's water being less then a grain of hardness (or so low it doesn't register) and maybe TDS of 20ppm; while out here in E. WA. you could need anything including a Iron filter, UV light and a Merlin. We have water well over 500ppm, in some parts, and all of that hardness (30 grains). It really depends on where the water is sourced, surface or underground. Take care! Hey scott, thanks for the adv…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-26:1688216:Comment:11126212011-04-26T21:37:14.068ZEli Masemhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/EliMasem
<p>Hey scott, thanks for the advice that def. simplifies things a little. I have a tendency to overthink these things as I am one of the very few people in my area that has this sort of set up. Also, shadow, your way might be the way for me to go in the future if I decide to expand. thanks so much guys. Its nice to be able to bounce these questions off of other brains sometimes.</p>
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<p>Hey scott, thanks for the advice that def. simplifies things a little. I have a tendency to overthink these things as I am one of the very few people in my area that has this sort of set up. Also, shadow, your way might be the way for me to go in the future if I decide to expand. thanks so much guys. Its nice to be able to bounce these questions off of other brains sometimes.</p>
<p> </p> Since we are mobile in operat…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-26:1688216:Comment:11127162011-04-26T21:26:26.574ZShadowhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Shadow
<p>Since we are mobile in operation I decided to install a high flow/volume softener as we have 90 gals of fresh water capacity. This allows us to achieve good water regardless of the source, as long as it's potable that is. To protect all onboard equipment I bought a Boji RV/Marine carbon filter/softener and installed/"hard" piped it. All water that goes into the tanks is ran through this. With average hardness it's good for 2,000 gallons before needing to be manually generated, which only…</p>
<p>Since we are mobile in operation I decided to install a high flow/volume softener as we have 90 gals of fresh water capacity. This allows us to achieve good water regardless of the source, as long as it's potable that is. To protect all onboard equipment I bought a Boji RV/Marine carbon filter/softener and installed/"hard" piped it. All water that goes into the tanks is ran through this. With average hardness it's good for 2,000 gallons before needing to be manually generated, which only takes 30 mins.</p>
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<p>Will also add that being mobile (with onboard tanks) has its challenges. Sanitizing of fresh water tanks is of great importance with such setups.</p> If you are using filtered wat…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-04-26:1688216:Comment:11121442011-04-26T20:24:05.443ZScotthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Scott890
If you are using filtered water already, why the softener? Why not just soften the water at home, instead of on the mobile? It would simplify things. And you could install a valve controlled/plumbed in softener. Or are you thinking of being able to source water from locations other than home, and then soften on the go?
If you are using filtered water already, why the softener? Why not just soften the water at home, instead of on the mobile? It would simplify things. And you could install a valve controlled/plumbed in softener. Or are you thinking of being able to source water from locations other than home, and then soften on the go?