Tenant Improvments - Barista Exchange2024-03-28T21:49:27Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/tenant-improvments?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A1404277&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI guess it all depends where…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-29:1688216:Comment:14086132012-08-29T00:22:12.039Zamy louise eatonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/amylouiseeaton
<p>I guess it all depends where you are.....and what you are including. Are you talking the building and all attached (shelves, sinks, flooring, deck, electrical, etc..) but not your appliances, furnishings, equipment? I am rebuilding my shop after a total fire loss. I am going into a new building, completely gutting it at my own expense and then building my new shop. We may be in similar circumstances . . . ? I have lots of experience on the tenant side~</p>
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<p>I guess it all depends where you are.....and what you are including. Are you talking the building and all attached (shelves, sinks, flooring, deck, electrical, etc..) but not your appliances, furnishings, equipment? I am rebuilding my shop after a total fire loss. I am going into a new building, completely gutting it at my own expense and then building my new shop. We may be in similar circumstances . . . ? I have lots of experience on the tenant side~</p>
<p></p> Wow 'em them yes,Genetic as i…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-10:1688216:Comment:14043372012-08-10T03:15:13.035ZTom Dovehttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/TomDove
<p>Wow 'em them yes,<span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">Genetic as in I do not have a space and are developing a business plan</span> . no charo star 4…</p>
<p>Wow 'em them yes,<span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">Genetic as in I do not have a space and are developing a business plan</span> . no charo star 4 big bucks</p>
<p>Thank you everyone</p> Sounds about right. I know o…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-10:1688216:Comment:14044242012-08-10T01:23:23.935ZScotthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Scott890
<p>Sounds about right. I know of some that spend twice that. </p>
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<p>Tom - I don't know what it's like down in Tucson, but up here we are full of generic coffee shops. We don't need anymore. You should go for amazing. Wow 'em. If 1500 sq ft is too much, downsize to control cost. We've had too amazing shops open in the last couple of months, both are smallish - one is only about 200 sq ft. Or do you need the space for roasting? Anyway good…</p>
<p>Sounds about right. I know of some that spend twice that. </p>
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<p>Tom - I don't know what it's like down in Tucson, but up here we are full of generic coffee shops. We don't need anymore. You should go for amazing. Wow 'em. If 1500 sq ft is too much, downsize to control cost. We've had too amazing shops open in the last couple of months, both are smallish - one is only about 200 sq ft. Or do you need the space for roasting? Anyway good luck!</p> It depends on the local real…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-10:1688216:Comment:14043302012-08-10T00:32:00.577ZMarshall Fusshttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Marshall
<p>It depends on the local real estate market, the particular building and its location and last, but not least, the disposition of your landlord. Your broker should be your best guide to what landlord concessions are typical in your community.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, why are you building a "generic" coffee shop? What's the plan behind that?</p>
<p>It depends on the local real estate market, the particular building and its location and last, but not least, the disposition of your landlord. Your broker should be your best guide to what landlord concessions are typical in your community.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, why are you building a "generic" coffee shop? What's the plan behind that?</p> Ask for the sky dude, I got…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-09:1688216:Comment:14042772012-08-09T21:22:59.048ZNick Leichtentritthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/NickLeichtentritt
<p>Ask for the sky dude, I got a lot more than I was "offered" All they can do is say no. Good luck man</p>
<p>Ask for the sky dude, I got a lot more than I was "offered" All they can do is say no. Good luck man</p> Deals vary with as many deals…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-09:1688216:Comment:14042732012-08-09T20:48:57.885ZJay Caragayhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JayCaragay
<p>Deals vary with as many deals are made in the world.</p>
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<p>If you can get it, ask the LL for a TIA (tenant improvement allowance), press for as much as you can get from LL.</p>
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<p>If not, how about rent abatement? Or free rent for X amount of months? </p>
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<p>If you want to buy land and build, it will almost certainly cost you more than $125sf. But $85-$125sf isn't bad for a buildout - especially if you can save on construction costs and squeeze in some equipment…</p>
<p>Deals vary with as many deals are made in the world.</p>
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<p>If you can get it, ask the LL for a TIA (tenant improvement allowance), press for as much as you can get from LL.</p>
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<p>If not, how about rent abatement? Or free rent for X amount of months? </p>
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<p>If you want to buy land and build, it will almost certainly cost you more than $125sf. But $85-$125sf isn't bad for a buildout - especially if you can save on construction costs and squeeze in some equipment for that.</p> What all does this include? I…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2012-08-08:1688216:Comment:14040442012-08-08T18:32:06.015ZWes Russellhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/WesRussell
<p>What all does this include? Is the landlord providing you an allowance? I think the landlord should be paying for items attached to the shell that are not associated with your specific business, IE. bathrooms, HVAC, general electrical like a new panel and outlets.</p>
<p>This has been my experience. </p>
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<p>What all does this include? Is the landlord providing you an allowance? I think the landlord should be paying for items attached to the shell that are not associated with your specific business, IE. bathrooms, HVAC, general electrical like a new panel and outlets.</p>
<p>This has been my experience. </p>
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