Single origin grinder - Barista Exchange2024-03-28T11:18:06Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A884015&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJeff Jaworski said:a Super Ca…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-15:1688216:Comment:8840122010-07-15T14:29:37.630ZBryan Wrayhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/BryanWray
<cite>Jeff Jaworski said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883861&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment884008"><div>a Super Caimano sitting on the counter</div>
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Noooooo.... haha<br />
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-bry
<cite>Jeff Jaworski said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883861&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment884008"><div>a Super Caimano sitting on the counter</div>
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Noooooo.... haha<br />
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-bry Thats probably a good idea
J…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-15:1688216:Comment:8838612010-07-15T06:21:47.386ZD. Smithhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DSmith
Thats probably a good idea<br />
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<cite>Jeff Jaworski said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder#1688216Comment883476"><div><cite>Bryan Wray said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder#1688216Comment882506"><div>I worked with a Mahlkonig single hopper version a couple years ago and clumping was pretty bad, but I've heard that they have addressed this issue.<br></br>-bry</div>
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Thats probably a good idea<br />
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<cite>Jeff Jaworski said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder#1688216Comment883476"><div><cite>Bryan Wray said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder#1688216Comment882506"><div>I worked with a Mahlkonig single hopper version a couple years ago and clumping was pretty bad, but I've heard that they have addressed this issue.<br/>-bry</div>
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<br/>I've also heard this from other owners and seen it's clumping firsthand as well. Stay away IMO... it's much too $$$ for a flat-burr grinder anyways.<br/><br/><br/>Just go with another Robur E and use your Kony E for the SO's. Problem solved!</div>
</blockquote> It's not like we order up an…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-15:1688216:Comment:8838332010-07-15T05:29:37.739ZBryan Wrayhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/BryanWray
It's not like we order up an extra 25lbs of coffee to run it through the grinder and then dump into the garbage can. The beans we use are ones that we save for specifically that purpose. When beans go past date, like 7 days, we pull the bag from the shelf and put it into a large container. When new burrs come around you know you need to break them in right? If you have 2 bags "date out" over a roast period that's pretty good inventory monitoring. If we were to summarize it to 1 bag a week…
It's not like we order up an extra 25lbs of coffee to run it through the grinder and then dump into the garbage can. The beans we use are ones that we save for specifically that purpose. When beans go past date, like 7 days, we pull the bag from the shelf and put it into a large container. When new burrs come around you know you need to break them in right? If you have 2 bags "date out" over a roast period that's pretty good inventory monitoring. If we were to summarize it to 1 bag a week (exceptional inventory monitoring) that's 52 pounds a year. Seems obvious to me what to use that coffee for...<br />
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No offense to <i>you</i> or <i>your</i> company, but you realize running beans over brand new burrs is a horrible idea and produces extremely sour and gassy shots right?<br />
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This isn't a practice I've done at 1 company or shop, this is a practice I have done at all 9 of the different companies I have worked for, be it a tiny little shop or a large roasting company. It's just standard practice...<br />
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I'd be surprised if there is any progressive coffee company out there that doesn't break in their burrs.<br />
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-bry that 2 for 1 day idea sounds…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-15:1688216:Comment:8837232010-07-15T00:58:48.190ZJackson Ballhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JacksonBall
that 2 for 1 day idea sounds like an awsome idea. Maybe even just say a shot (or 2) for free if you don't want to lose money on the milk/syrups. Customers would rave and you could break your grinder in quickly. great thinking!<br />
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of course - byran may well have had access to some "disposeable"coffee.<br />
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~j<br />
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<cite>Jeff Jaworski said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A882057&page=2#1688216Comment883696"><div><cite>Bryan…</cite></div>
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that 2 for 1 day idea sounds like an awsome idea. Maybe even just say a shot (or 2) for free if you don't want to lose money on the milk/syrups. Customers would rave and you could break your grinder in quickly. great thinking!<br />
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of course - byran may well have had access to some "disposeable"coffee.<br />
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~j<br />
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<cite>Jeff Jaworski said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A882057&page=2#1688216Comment883696"><div><cite>Bryan Wray said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com//forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883501&x=1#1688216Comment883501"><div><cite>Robert Bedwell said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883420&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment883461"><div>We sped up the break in by running 25lbs through it when we first got it, then put it into production. -bry</div>
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<br/>No disrespect to you or your company Bryan, but I've always thought of this "break-in" practice with a new grinder as a complete waste of coffee. IMO, 25 lbs of whole beans is a helluva lot to be throwing right into the garbage can. Sometimes I think Espresso Nerds and Audiophiles are two in the same... ;p<br/><br/>Why not just do a two for one special the day or two or three that you all are supposedly "breaking in" the new grinder and explain the reasoning behind it to the customers? They surely won't mind and everyone comes out a winner that way.</div>
</blockquote> Robert Bedwell said:This was…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-14:1688216:Comment:8835012010-07-14T19:29:22.676ZBryan Wrayhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/BryanWray
<cite>Robert Bedwell said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883420&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment883461"><div>This was all over the forums last year. I purchased my first one in September '09 which was before the WBC model that supposedly addressed the clumping issue. Initially I was disturbed by the clumping but found the clumping virtually disappeared after the burrs broke in which was about 6…</div>
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<cite>Robert Bedwell said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883420&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment883461"><div>This was all over the forums last year. I purchased my first one in September '09 which was before the WBC model that supposedly addressed the clumping issue. Initially I was disturbed by the clumping but found the clumping virtually disappeared after the burrs broke in which was about 6 weeks. The so called clumps would fall apart with the lightest touch of the finger or tamper. Humidity was more of the cause of this than the grinder. The second K30 is a WBC which incorporates a new motor and new chute changes. It is noticeably quieter than my first one.<br/></div>
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I didn't have the same result after break in. We sped up the break in by running 25lbs through it when we first got it, then put it into production. The espresso blend we were running was relatively dark (not WAY dark, but spots of oil would creep in on day 4) and the clumping was always annoying. As T pointed out, with a lighter roast it might not be an issue.<br />
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The model I was using was also a "pre-WBC" model, so this issue may indeed have been resolved.<br />
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-bry This was all over the forums…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-14:1688216:Comment:8834612010-07-14T18:31:34.336ZRobert Bedwellhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/xn/detail/u_1ca7r6cnvnuck
This was all over the forums last year. I purchased my first one in September '09 which was before the WBC model that supposedly addressed the clumping issue. Initially I was disturbed by the clumping but found the clumping virtually disappeared after the burrs broke in which was about 6 weeks. The so called clumps would fall apart with the lightest touch of the finger or tamper. Humidity was more of the cause of this than the grinder. The second K30 is a WBC which incorporates a new motor and…
This was all over the forums last year. I purchased my first one in September '09 which was before the WBC model that supposedly addressed the clumping issue. Initially I was disturbed by the clumping but found the clumping virtually disappeared after the burrs broke in which was about 6 weeks. The so called clumps would fall apart with the lightest touch of the finger or tamper. Humidity was more of the cause of this than the grinder. The second K30 is a WBC which incorporates a new motor and new chute changes. It is noticeably quieter than my first one.<br />
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<cite>Bryan Wray said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com//forum/topics/single-origin-grinder#1688216Comment882506"><div>I worked with a Mahlkonig single hopper version a couple years ago and clumping was pretty bad, but I've heard that they have addressed this issue.<br/> <br/>
I'm going to try to point a couple people that I know that are working with both the single and double hopper versions to this thread and see if they will give you some input.<br/>
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I'm in Toronto but I ordered mine from a place in BC. Actually, I first wrote to Compak in Spain and received a reply from Compak USA with instructions on who to contact. In the USA you should have lots of dealers near to you.<br />
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The K10 Timer Doserless has a simple timer located on the lower left side which can be easily adjusted in moments. To run the timer you simply push the button above the portafilter guide fork.<br />
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On the right side of the machine is a three position switch with…
I'm in Toronto but I ordered mine from a place in BC. Actually, I first wrote to Compak in Spain and received a reply from Compak USA with instructions on who to contact. In the USA you should have lots of dealers near to you.<br />
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The K10 Timer Doserless has a simple timer located on the lower left side which can be easily adjusted in moments. To run the timer you simply push the button above the portafilter guide fork.<br />
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On the right side of the machine is a three position switch with Timer/Off/On.<br />
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The timer setting can be cut short by pushing the button a second time.<br />
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What it lacks is Single/Double dose. In my case that's a non-issue because I only do doubles.<br />
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If you do both, then you'd simply set the timer for singles (about 2.4 seconds) and do it twice.<br />
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Compak USA suggests against opening it to clean it. They suggest Grindz.<br />
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<cite>D. Smith said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/single-origin-grinder?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A883335&x=1#1688216Comment883223"><div>The compak looks nice. I wonder how it compares to the robur e? I don't think there is a dealer in my area. Where is everyone getting them? Does it have a grind on demand button?</div>
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-brytag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-14:1688216:Comment:8833352010-07-14T14:55:05.097ZBryan Wrayhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/BryanWray
Thanks for the input T<br />
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-bry
Thanks for the input T<br />
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-bry The compak looks nice. I wond…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-14:1688216:Comment:8832232010-07-14T06:51:07.934ZD. Smithhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DSmith
The compak looks nice. I wonder how it compares to the robur e? I don't think there is a dealer in my area. Where is everyone getting them? Does it have a grind on demand button?
The compak looks nice. I wonder how it compares to the robur e? I don't think there is a dealer in my area. Where is everyone getting them? Does it have a grind on demand button? I have worked quite a bit wit…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-07-14:1688216:Comment:8831022010-07-14T02:08:08.824ZTerikahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Terika
I have worked quite a bit with Mahlkonigs...both the Twin and a single. They work better with lighter roasted espressos. Ours is pretty dark, so clumping in quite a problem. It has improved our consistency, and therefore the taste. My only issue with them is that programming the time is a pain in the butt during a rush.
I have worked quite a bit with Mahlkonigs...both the Twin and a single. They work better with lighter roasted espressos. Ours is pretty dark, so clumping in quite a problem. It has improved our consistency, and therefore the taste. My only issue with them is that programming the time is a pain in the butt during a rush.