plus 4 you astoria - Barista Exchange2024-03-29T15:14:42Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A235459&feed=yes&xn_auth=notag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-12-09:1688216:Comment:2520832008-12-09T20:49:34.102ZJasonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jasonjones
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<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/34557709?profile=original" alt="" width="3888" height="2592"/></p> Hi,
the group's and water bo…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-12-09:1688216:Comment:2520122008-12-09T18:23:12.713ZJasonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jasonjones
Hi,<br />
<br />
the group's and water boilers can be adjusted separatly and are PID controlled to ± 0,5 °C.<br />
<br />
This in affect allows you to adjust the temps so that you can find the "sweet spot" for the coffee you are using, when you find the correct tempratures for your coffee the +4 will constanly deliver these tempratures and give you thermal stability in your product.<br />
<br />
This maximum flexibility gives you the best solution for each coffee blend (Robusta, Arabica, different roast profiles require specific…
Hi,<br />
<br />
the group's and water boilers can be adjusted separatly and are PID controlled to ± 0,5 °C.<br />
<br />
This in affect allows you to adjust the temps so that you can find the "sweet spot" for the coffee you are using, when you find the correct tempratures for your coffee the +4 will constanly deliver these tempratures and give you thermal stability in your product.<br />
<br />
This maximum flexibility gives you the best solution for each coffee blend (Robusta, Arabica, different roast profiles require specific extraction temperatures for the best result in the cup).<br />
Moreover, the double digital control (on the group and onthe water reservoir) grants temperature precision and stability.<br />
<br />
increasing the group temp for example will affect the bitterness/acidity of the coffee. please explain that temperatu…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-12-09:1688216:Comment:2520012008-12-09T17:50:36.222ZDomagoj Trusichttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DomagojTrusic
please explain that temperature a bit closer...<br />
I need info...<br />
You mean 2 degrees bellow boiler tem. to get on groop or?<br />
write me I need info, thanks...<br />
<br />
<br />
<cite>Zan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria#1688216Comment251384"><div>Hi Domagoj<br></br> <br></br> I 'm a man who are the fan of +4U . I using it in my shop and selling the P4U in Thailand too. It's the good machine but you have to set coffee water from 80 c and fine tuning up a little bit…</div>
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please explain that temperature a bit closer...<br />
I need info...<br />
You mean 2 degrees bellow boiler tem. to get on groop or?<br />
write me I need info, thanks...<br />
<br />
<br />
<cite>Zan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria#1688216Comment251384"><div>Hi Domagoj<br/> <br/>
I 'm a man who are the fan of +4U . I using it in my shop and selling the P4U in Thailand too. It's the good machine but you have to set coffee water from 80 c and fine tuning up a little bit and check your coffee taste. Almost the group head I set in below than coffee water around 2-3 degree.<br/>
<br/>
Zan</div>
</blockquote> Hi Domagoj
I 'm a man who ar…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-12-08:1688216:Comment:2513842008-12-08T17:23:42.305ZZanhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Zan
Hi Domagoj<br />
<br />
I 'm a man who are the fan of +4U . I using it in my shop and selling the P4U in Thailand too. It's the good machine but you have to set coffee water from 80 c and fine tuning up a little bit and check your coffee taste. Almost the group head I set in below than coffee water around 2-3 degree.<br />
<br />
Zan
Hi Domagoj<br />
<br />
I 'm a man who are the fan of +4U . I using it in my shop and selling the P4U in Thailand too. It's the good machine but you have to set coffee water from 80 c and fine tuning up a little bit and check your coffee taste. Almost the group head I set in below than coffee water around 2-3 degree.<br />
<br />
Zan HVALA! (means thanks in Croat…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-11-25:1688216:Comment:2377862008-11-25T20:11:43.305ZDomagoj Trusichttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DomagojTrusic
HVALA! (means thanks in Croatian - you now owe me 2 dolars for scolarship of Croatian ha,ha,ha...<br />
...pay me when you come to visit my school )<br />
<br />
<cite>Jason said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://baristaexchange.ning.com/forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A237750&x=1#1688216Comment237750"><div>hi<br></br> <br></br> the group boilers do not need to be drained each morning, they hold 1.2 ltrs and the +4U flushes the system each time you turn on the machine. BUT you…</div>
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HVALA! (means thanks in Croatian - you now owe me 2 dolars for scolarship of Croatian ha,ha,ha...<br />
...pay me when you come to visit my school )<br />
<br />
<cite>Jason said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://baristaexchange.ning.com/forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A237750&x=1#1688216Comment237750"><div>hi<br/> <br/>
the group boilers do not need to be drained each morning, they hold 1.2 ltrs and the +4U flushes the system each time you turn on the machine. BUT you should not turn off the +4U as the energy saving system completly controls the machine and "it knows" when the machine is in rest and turns down the tempratures to save energy.<br/>
<br/>
as for the steam temprature, can set it from 0.9 bar to 1.4 bar, the real benifit is that depending how powerfull you want the steam pressure is easily adjustable in the display. I would suggest you start at 1bar and see which setting suits you best.<br/>
<br/>
the two tempratures group and water resiviors allow you to fine tune the machine for extraction +/- 0.5 degree, and it allows for envorimental factors ambient room temprature for example.<br/>
<br/>
hope this explains, if you need to know any more ASK away!!<br/>
<br/>
regards<br/>
Jason<br/>
CMA.</div>
</blockquote> hi
the group boilers do not…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-11-25:1688216:Comment:2377502008-11-25T19:42:26.235ZJasonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jasonjones
hi<br />
<br />
the group boilers do not need to be drained each morning, they hold 1.2 ltrs and the +4U flushes the system each time you turn on the machine. BUT you should not turn off the +4U as the energy saving system completly controls the machine and "it knows" when the machine is in rest and turns down the tempratures to save energy.<br />
<br />
as for the steam temprature, can set it from 0.9 bar to 1.4 bar, the real benifit is that depending how powerfull you want the steam pressure is easily adjustable in…
hi<br />
<br />
the group boilers do not need to be drained each morning, they hold 1.2 ltrs and the +4U flushes the system each time you turn on the machine. BUT you should not turn off the +4U as the energy saving system completly controls the machine and "it knows" when the machine is in rest and turns down the tempratures to save energy.<br />
<br />
as for the steam temprature, can set it from 0.9 bar to 1.4 bar, the real benifit is that depending how powerfull you want the steam pressure is easily adjustable in the display. I would suggest you start at 1bar and see which setting suits you best.<br />
<br />
the two tempratures group and water resiviors allow you to fine tune the machine for extraction +/- 0.5 degree, and it allows for envorimental factors ambient room temprature for example.<br />
<br />
hope this explains, if you need to know any more ASK away!!<br />
<br />
regards<br />
Jason<br />
CMA. I need some more answer to th…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-11-25:1688216:Comment:2371992008-11-25T14:50:55.941ZDomagoj Trusichttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DomagojTrusic
I need some more answer to the subject +4u !<br />
Maybe I am borring but I need to know and you all can help me...<br />
+4u has a boyler off each gruop very large and how much water shell I drain every morning?<br />
Should I start steam temperature on 120 and go up for testing...<br />
...is this two temperature on machine on boyler and on group very diferent or is it for the balance...<br />
...how to do 95 on exit ... ...why two temperature mesuring if there is only one heather is there small heather in group... am I…
I need some more answer to the subject +4u !<br />
Maybe I am borring but I need to know and you all can help me...<br />
+4u has a boyler off each gruop very large and how much water shell I drain every morning?<br />
Should I start steam temperature on 120 and go up for testing...<br />
...is this two temperature on machine on boyler and on group very diferent or is it for the balance...<br />
...how to do 95 on exit ... ...why two temperature mesuring if there is only one heather is there small heather in group... am I dreaming!<br />
<br />
...what is with preinfusion...<br />
Jason hope in!<br />
Somebody !<br />
I can't hendle this in my head... jason jones said:Tristan also…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-11-23:1688216:Comment:2354592008-11-23T20:13:13.620ZDomagoj Trusichttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DomagojTrusic
<cite>jason jones said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com//forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A235301&x=1#1688216Comment235301"><div>Tristan also played with the machine's brew temps.<br></br> <br></br> <a href="http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-brew-temperature/" target="blank">http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-...</a><br></br>
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have a…</div>
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<cite>jason jones said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com//forum/topics/plus-4-you-astoria?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A235301&x=1#1688216Comment235301"><div>Tristan also played with the machine's brew temps.<br/> <br/>
<a target="blank" href="http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-brew-temperature/">http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-...</a><br/>
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have a look<br/>
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jason</div>
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thanks you are very helpful<br />
be my friend... Tristan also played with the…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-11-23:1688216:Comment:2353012008-11-23T16:13:41.417ZJasonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jasonjones
Tristan also played with the machine's brew temps.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-brew-temperature/">http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-brew-temperature/</a><br />
<br />
have a look<br />
<br />
jason
Tristan also played with the machine's brew temps.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-brew-temperature/">http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/12/02/playing-with-brew-temperature/</a><br />
<br />
have a look<br />
<br />
jason Hi,
Have alook at Tristan's…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2008-11-23:1688216:Comment:2352992008-11-23T16:11:57.485ZJasonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jasonjones
Hi,<br />
<br />
Have alook at Tristan's rewiew of the Plus for you..<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/11/28/plus-4-u/">http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/11/28/plus-4-u/</a>
Hi,<br />
<br />
Have alook at Tristan's rewiew of the Plus for you..<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/11/28/plus-4-u/">http://www.tristanstephenson.com/wordpress/2007/11/28/plus-4-u/</a>