Not offering a 20oz? - Barista Exchange2024-03-29T04:59:10Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/not-offering-a-20oz?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A990204&feed=yes&xn_auth=nogood idea! where i work does…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-24:1688216:Comment:10118952011-01-24T05:44:35.873ZChristelle Debeufhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/ChristelleDebeuf
<p>good idea! where i work does a 12 oz with 2 oz espresso and 16 oz with 4 oz espresso. also we offer classic 8oz size cappuccinos, and 5 oz cortados.</p>
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<p>for iced drinks we do 12 and 20oz though.</p>
<p>good idea! where i work does a 12 oz with 2 oz espresso and 16 oz with 4 oz espresso. also we offer classic 8oz size cappuccinos, and 5 oz cortados.</p>
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<p>for iced drinks we do 12 and 20oz though.</p> Can I share the comedy I find…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-18:1688216:Comment:10081912011-01-18T19:11:22.438ZNathanael Mayhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/NathanaelMay448
<p>Can I share the comedy I find in reading the responses to this discussion, then reading this:</p>
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<p><a href="http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/17/graphic-how-big-exactly-is-starbucks-new-trenta-size/">http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/17/graphic-how-big-exactly-is-starbucks-new-trenta-size/</a></p>
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<p>It seems that Starbucks is in disagreement with all of you as to the legitimacy of offering larger beverages. Hilarious.…</p>
<p>Can I share the comedy I find in reading the responses to this discussion, then reading this:</p>
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<p><a href="http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/17/graphic-how-big-exactly-is-starbucks-new-trenta-size/">http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/17/graphic-how-big-exactly-is-starbucks-new-trenta-size/</a></p>
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<p>It seems that Starbucks is in disagreement with all of you as to the legitimacy of offering larger beverages. Hilarious.</p>
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</blockquote> As I finalize my menu and mov…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-14:1688216:Comment:10007082011-01-14T03:02:29.339ZMelanie Loganhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/MelanieLogan
<p>As I finalize my menu and move closer to a summer opening date I have done a lot of research at local shops--observing what is popular at certain times of day, transaction counts, etc. I have noticed that at locations with a great deal of foot traffic (malls, shopping centers) that almost all to-go cups ordered (in excess of 80%) were 16 oz. Customers who sat in to drink beverages overwhelmingly ordered a regular-sized (10 oz or 12oz) coffee. When I visited neighborhood-niche shops and…</p>
<p>As I finalize my menu and move closer to a summer opening date I have done a lot of research at local shops--observing what is popular at certain times of day, transaction counts, etc. I have noticed that at locations with a great deal of foot traffic (malls, shopping centers) that almost all to-go cups ordered (in excess of 80%) were 16 oz. Customers who sat in to drink beverages overwhelmingly ordered a regular-sized (10 oz or 12oz) coffee. When I visited neighborhood-niche shops and observed the same time periods the to-go cups ordered were cut in half, but those who ordered a 12oz was nearly 80%. while the same per capita breakdown of regular-sized mug drinkers held true for the neighborhood shops.</p>
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<p>Because of the location I am choosing (a neighborhood in the middle of a resurgence) I've elected to offer only 1 size regular coffee (12oz) and 1 size of capp and latte'. When I break down the prices it just becomes obnoxiously costly to offer 'milky' drinks without making the cost prohibitive to customers or breaking my own bank.</p>
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<p>I do agree, from quizzing owners, that they have found it easier to stick with a menu rather than alter sizes that people have become accustomed to.</p>
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<p> </p> Defiantly agree with earlier…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-13:1688216:Comment:10001092011-01-13T03:50:08.359ZLogan Demmyhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/LoganDemmy
Defiantly agree with earlier posts that starting with a smaller size is much easier. The current project that I am working with is a vintage cocktail bar so no profit is required from the coffee program. Though is is a beautiful thing to only have 8 ounce to go cups and 3, 6, 8 for here cups. I was really surprised that anyone would be interested in no flavoring lattes in Columbus, OH. A dream come true for someone not living in Portland, Chicago, or New York.
Defiantly agree with earlier posts that starting with a smaller size is much easier. The current project that I am working with is a vintage cocktail bar so no profit is required from the coffee program. Though is is a beautiful thing to only have 8 ounce to go cups and 3, 6, 8 for here cups. I was really surprised that anyone would be interested in no flavoring lattes in Columbus, OH. A dream come true for someone not living in Portland, Chicago, or New York. Oh p.s.
A picture the menu f…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-10:1688216:Comment:9985532011-01-10T23:58:47.470ZDavid Robsonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DavidRobson
<img width="350" src="http://www.jimseven.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/menu.jpg?width=350"/><br />
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<div>A picture the menu from my work. I just thought I would share.</div>
<img width="350" src="http://www.jimseven.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/menu.jpg?width=350"/><br />
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<div>A picture the menu from my work. I just thought I would share.</div> I bought the 20oz again grrrr…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-10:1688216:Comment:9982802011-01-10T17:29:46.308ZMillRockhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/MillRock
I bought the 20oz again grrrr & I'm drinking it when I get the update on this blog. How many days does it take to break a bad habit? 21 I think... and sure enough I'm tossing the last 3 or 4 oz left. Tomorrow 16,16,16oz
I bought the 20oz again grrrr & I'm drinking it when I get the update on this blog. How many days does it take to break a bad habit? 21 I think... and sure enough I'm tossing the last 3 or 4 oz left. Tomorrow 16,16,16oz *like
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Sin…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-10:1688216:Comment:9981722011-01-10T11:17:04.548ZIgharthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/davidleongww
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<blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/not-offering-a-20oz?page=4&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A997993&x=1#1688216Comment997993"><div><p>Since when does a 16oz taste good let alone a 20oz?</p>
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<cite>David Robson said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/not-offering-a-20oz?page=4&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A997993&x=1#1688216Comment997993"><div><p>Since when does a 16oz taste good let alone a 20oz?</p>
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</blockquote> Since when does a 16oz taste…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-09:1688216:Comment:9979932011-01-09T23:57:18.949ZDavid Robsonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DavidRobson
<p>Since when does a 16oz taste good let alone a 20oz?</p>
<p>Since when does a 16oz taste good let alone a 20oz?</p> I did this at the cafe I used…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-08:1688216:Comment:9973462011-01-08T17:47:40.017ZJoseph Plaugherhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JosephPlaugher
I did this at the cafe I used to manage. We dropped 20oz espresso (kept it for everything else), and explained to customers that it was a quality and speed of service thing. There was only a couple customers who didn't buy that and complained about it a lot. Hopefully you have enough quality/service valuing customers who will see the benefit and accept the change. It worked for me and I did it after the store had been open for five years with 20oz everything already on the menu. Go for it!
I did this at the cafe I used to manage. We dropped 20oz espresso (kept it for everything else), and explained to customers that it was a quality and speed of service thing. There was only a couple customers who didn't buy that and complained about it a lot. Hopefully you have enough quality/service valuing customers who will see the benefit and accept the change. It worked for me and I did it after the store had been open for five years with 20oz everything already on the menu. Go for it! What you say is quite fair an…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2011-01-08:1688216:Comment:9972972011-01-08T15:49:42.741ZIgharthttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/davidleongww
<p>What you say is quite fair and true, so if all Chris wants to have is just plan good business, then why not copy business model from sbux. It is proven to work. Extremely well.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/not-offering-a-20oz?x=1&id=1688216%3ATopic%3A990204&page=4#1688216Comment997263"><div><p><br></br>This is very practical and smart...</p>
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<p>What you say is quite fair and true, so if all Chris wants to have is just plan good business, then why not copy business model from sbux. It is proven to work. Extremely well.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/not-offering-a-20oz?x=1&id=1688216%3ATopic%3A990204&page=4#1688216Comment997263"><div><p><br/>This is very practical and smart...</p>
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<blockquote><div>In the decision to "carry or not carry" there are a couple of other things to keep in mind. If you need to spend time every other transaction defending why you don't do something, it may not be in your best interest to not do it. Also, many- may I say most- customers really don't care about all the details. They just want to give you their money and "Can I get my drink please thank you very much" (unless your shop is "built for the coffee geek"). And at the end of the day a business exists to serve the customer what they want, more than what the business wants. That is what leads to longevity. Customers coming back everyday all year long for years on end.</div>
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