Hacienda Esmeralda - Is it worth the price? - Barista Exchange2024-03-28T11:44:07Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/hacienda-esmeralda-is-it?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A928934&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJohn, I agree with you and lo…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-27:1688216:Comment:9289342010-09-27T20:21:26.078ZJason Haegerhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JasonHaeger
John, I agree with you and love your logic. But it just isn't a fair analysis for the mass market who is used to thinking of coffee, yes.. even specialty coffee, as a commodity.<br />
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It's not wine. it is coffee. It cannot sit on the shelf to be opened at your leisure. It requires more respect than that to be enjoyed well.<br />
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It is not a commodity. While there is a market for every coffee, and while the bulk of the market views coffee as a commodity, it is not fair to those men and women who are…
John, I agree with you and love your logic. But it just isn't a fair analysis for the mass market who is used to thinking of coffee, yes.. even specialty coffee, as a commodity.<br />
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It's not wine. it is coffee. It cannot sit on the shelf to be opened at your leisure. It requires more respect than that to be enjoyed well.<br />
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It is not a commodity. While there is a market for every coffee, and while the bulk of the market views coffee as a commodity, it is not fair to those men and women who are responsible for such stellar quality coffees to be told that they cannot charge a premium price for their premium non-commodity products.<br />
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To say that it is "too expensive 'for coffee'" is to speak on relative rather than absolute terms.<br />
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Forget the "compared to other coffees" analogy. Take the cup. Taste it. How much are you willing to pay for what you just drank. For the cup, not for a bulk quantity of the roasted coffee.<br />
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I would guess that 9 times out of 10, people would be surprised at how much they are actually willing to pay when that price is translated into dollars per pound. We brought in Esmeralda last…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-16:1688216:Comment:9218242010-09-16T15:39:24.664ZShellie Adamshttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/ShellieAdams
We brought in Esmeralda last year for the holiday season and I loved it so much that I ended up buying some for myself despite only having a Barista salary. It was hands-down the best coffee I have ever had. I loved the smoothness and the delicateness that I have never tasted with other coffees. I would not buy it for myself again this year because I enjoyed the experience from last year and I could not afford it. The coffee itself MAY not be worth the price but the experience totally is.
We brought in Esmeralda last year for the holiday season and I loved it so much that I ended up buying some for myself despite only having a Barista salary. It was hands-down the best coffee I have ever had. I loved the smoothness and the delicateness that I have never tasted with other coffees. I would not buy it for myself again this year because I enjoyed the experience from last year and I could not afford it. The coffee itself MAY not be worth the price but the experience totally is. Ok, my one and only 2 cents o…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-06:1688216:Comment:9157042010-09-06T18:44:38.953ZJoseph Robertsonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JosephRobertson
Ok, my one and only 2 cents on this question. I have tried it. It's a very nice treat. Worth the price? It is all relative to your palate and taste buds. Simply put, totally subjective. For me as a coffee business person, fun but not worth the price at this point in time for my business.
Ok, my one and only 2 cents on this question. I have tried it. It's a very nice treat. Worth the price? It is all relative to your palate and taste buds. Simply put, totally subjective. For me as a coffee business person, fun but not worth the price at this point in time for my business. I had the opportunity to try…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-06:1688216:Comment:9156892010-09-06T18:12:55.226ZJennifer Vaalerhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jennifervaaler
I had the <a href="http://dailydemitasse.com/2010/08/esmeralda-special-geisha-naranjo-review/" target="_blank">opportunity</a> to try this gem and thought it was completely worth it. I'd buy it again for sure, as a treat. The aroma and flavors are very overwhelming so it really depends on your palette. I purposely keep coffee on my priority list of things to buy or splurge on too.<br />
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I think any coffee lover should at least try the Esmeralda once.
I had the <a href="http://dailydemitasse.com/2010/08/esmeralda-special-geisha-naranjo-review/" target="_blank">opportunity</a> to try this gem and thought it was completely worth it. I'd buy it again for sure, as a treat. The aroma and flavors are very overwhelming so it really depends on your palette. I purposely keep coffee on my priority list of things to buy or splurge on too.<br />
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I think any coffee lover should at least try the Esmeralda once. Oscar Nyman said:while Coffee…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-06:1688216:Comment:9155722010-09-06T08:15:29.610ZJoona Suominenhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JoonaSuominen
<cite>Oscar Nyman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/hacienda-esmeralda-is-it?page=2&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A915490&x=1#1688216Comment915321"><div>while Coffee Collective produce a lighter, very scandinavian roast.<br/></div>
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Waving the scandinavian flag :)
<cite>Oscar Nyman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/hacienda-esmeralda-is-it?page=2&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A915490&x=1#1688216Comment915321"><div>while Coffee Collective produce a lighter, very scandinavian roast.<br/></div>
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Waving the scandinavian flag :) No, it is shabby. Why? Becaus…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-06:1688216:Comment:9154902010-09-06T05:06:06.234ZKevin Ayershttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/KevinAyers
No, it is shabby. Why? Because you have to drink that coffee within a week or so. You could let those bottles of wine sit and age for years, and open them as you please. Not a fair comparison.<br />
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<cite>Jared Rutledge said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/hacienda-esmeralda-is-it?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A913030&page=2#1688216Comment914762"><div>to follow up with john, 750ml is the standard wine size. to get 750ml of coffee you should use about 45g of beans. a 12…</div>
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No, it is shabby. Why? Because you have to drink that coffee within a week or so. You could let those bottles of wine sit and age for years, and open them as you please. Not a fair comparison.<br />
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<cite>Jared Rutledge said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/hacienda-esmeralda-is-it?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A913030&page=2#1688216Comment914762"><div>to follow up with john, 750ml is the standard wine size. to get 750ml of coffee you should use about 45g of beans. a 12 oz. bag is ~340g of coffee. 340/45=7.5. so for $85 you're getting 7.5 wine bottles of one of the best coffees in the world. not shabby.</div>
</blockquote> I think It's VERY unfair to c…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-05:1688216:Comment:9153212010-09-05T20:38:07.242ZOscar Nymanhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/egOscar
I think It's VERY unfair to compare Esmeralda with Jamaican Blue Mountain or Kona.<br />
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Yes La Esmeralda is expensive but well worth the money; It gives you flavours that are hard to find elsewhere. I have cupped the 2009 and 2010 lots + bought and brewed it myself a couple of times. Haugaards roasts are probably similar to what Stumptown produces on this coffee, while Coffee Collective produce a lighter, very scandinavian roast.<br />
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I never waste any precious beans by trying to diall in the grinder…
I think It's VERY unfair to compare Esmeralda with Jamaican Blue Mountain or Kona.<br />
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Yes La Esmeralda is expensive but well worth the money; It gives you flavours that are hard to find elsewhere. I have cupped the 2009 and 2010 lots + bought and brewed it myself a couple of times. Haugaards roasts are probably similar to what Stumptown produces on this coffee, while Coffee Collective produce a lighter, very scandinavian roast.<br />
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I never waste any precious beans by trying to diall in the grinder for espresso, but brew it frenchpress or melitta porcelain. If you think it's too expensive buy one bag and share among many baristas? I think anyone in this industry should have tasted this coffee.<br />
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<a href="http://www.coffeecollective.dk" target="_blank">http://www.coffeecollective.dk</a> to follow up with john, 750ml…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-04:1688216:Comment:9147622010-09-04T13:01:18.485ZJared Rutledgehttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JaredRutledge
to follow up with john, 750ml is the standard wine size. to get 750ml of coffee you should use about 45g of beans. a 12 oz. bag is ~340g of coffee. 340/45=7.5. so for $85 you're getting 7.5 wine bottles of one of the best coffees in the world. not shabby.
to follow up with john, 750ml is the standard wine size. to get 750ml of coffee you should use about 45g of beans. a 12 oz. bag is ~340g of coffee. 340/45=7.5. so for $85 you're getting 7.5 wine bottles of one of the best coffees in the world. not shabby. If you break it down, even at…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-04:1688216:Comment:9145992010-09-04T01:36:55.575ZJohn Phttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JohnP49
If you break it down, even at the current $85 for 12 oz. from Stumptown, you're looking at about 30 cups of coffee, give or take, for less than $3.00 per cup.<br />
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You're talking about (arguably) what is consistently one of the top five coffees in the world for less than $3.00 per cup. Every day? Probably not, but it's not even approaching "expensive" by any stretch of the imagination. It's more than $3.00 for a freakin' shake from McDonalds! To compare, you're looking at what would be an under $20…
If you break it down, even at the current $85 for 12 oz. from Stumptown, you're looking at about 30 cups of coffee, give or take, for less than $3.00 per cup.<br />
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You're talking about (arguably) what is consistently one of the top five coffees in the world for less than $3.00 per cup. Every day? Probably not, but it's not even approaching "expensive" by any stretch of the imagination. It's more than $3.00 for a freakin' shake from McDonalds! To compare, you're looking at what would be an under $20 bottle of wine. It's an incredible value. It's not everyone's cup of tea, that's fine - everybody has their preferences - but to say that it costs "too much" is just weird.<br />
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Now if you are talking about pouring milk over it and eating it like cereal-- yea, then it's expensive. But to drink, I don't see it. I brewed the 2010 version roa…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-09-03:1688216:Comment:9143422010-09-03T19:54:53.528ZGreg Aliffhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/GregAliff
I brewed the 2010 version roasted by Counter Culture. I probably wouldn't pay for it again, but I'll definitely attend a free cupping to try it next year!
I brewed the 2010 version roasted by Counter Culture. I probably wouldn't pay for it again, but I'll definitely attend a free cupping to try it next year!