Best commercial espresso machine - Barista Exchange2024-03-29T05:55:55Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso?feed=yes&xn_auth=noBuying a machine for commerci…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2016-02-29:1688216:Comment:15818432016-02-29T12:16:31.848ZAmit Ahujahttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/AmitAhuja
<p>Buying a machine for commercial purpose should not be anyhow linked to budget, it rather should be linked with your needs. Identify your main needs and plan some machines around it and than seek for reviews about those, this will simply give you machine in your choice. Even if you need some advice, post your list of machines here in the board in poll form and done....</p>
<p>Buying a machine for commercial purpose should not be anyhow linked to budget, it rather should be linked with your needs. Identify your main needs and plan some machines around it and than seek for reviews about those, this will simply give you machine in your choice. Even if you need some advice, post your list of machines here in the board in poll form and done....</p> We have written a blog post j…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2016-02-21:1688216:Comment:15807342016-02-21T18:51:46.406ZInland Coffeehttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/InlandCoffee
<p><span class="inline_editor_value"><span class="rendered_qtext">We have written a blog post just about this because it is the number one question that our customers ask. We made a 4 part series because this question as it turns out is less about the espresso machine and more about your understanding some commonly neglected considerations. </span></span><a href="https://inlandcoffee.com/best-espresso-machine/" target="_blank">https://inlandcoffee.com/best-espresso-machine/</a></p>
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<p><span class="inline_editor_value"><span class="rendered_qtext">We have written a blog post just about this because it is the number one question that our customers ask. We made a 4 part series because this question as it turns out is less about the espresso machine and more about your understanding some commonly neglected considerations. </span></span><a href="https://inlandcoffee.com/best-espresso-machine/" target="_blank">https://inlandcoffee.com/best-espresso-machine/</a></p>
<p></p> Laranzato, great machines and…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-23:1688216:Comment:7284522009-12-23T21:54:17.592ZFixYourEspressoMachinehttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/FixYourEspressoMachine
Laranzato, great machines and low priced as well. I am a direct distributor for them, very reliable.
Laranzato, great machines and low priced as well. I am a direct distributor for them, very reliable. Paul I do agree with not need…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-13:1688216:Comment:7198822009-12-13T15:20:20.209ZShadowhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Shadow
Paul I do agree with not needing/wanting the Aurelia's Smart Wand, but we have found it useful on our 2 group. I programmed it to hit 140-145 degrees and we use it to heat apple cider for customers. That way we don't contaminate the main wands and you just set the temp. and forget it. I surely wouldn't use it for milk, but it does a respectable job because my wife first got started on it for that reason. Later!
Paul I do agree with not needing/wanting the Aurelia's Smart Wand, but we have found it useful on our 2 group. I programmed it to hit 140-145 degrees and we use it to heat apple cider for customers. That way we don't contaminate the main wands and you just set the temp. and forget it. I surely wouldn't use it for milk, but it does a respectable job because my wife first got started on it for that reason. Later! Awesome, this is all great fe…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-10:1688216:Comment:7166892009-12-10T02:48:37.193ZDustin DeMershttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/DustinDeMers998
Awesome, this is all great feedback. I definitely dont mind paying a little extra for a reliable machine. After all i have no idea how to fix anything major that is wrong with it. Ive been useing a La Marzocco for the last 3 years, and its been pretty reliable. All though at the this very moment theres something wrong with one of the groups. Its pulling shots that are a lot longer than the other 2. Backwashing and cleaning it will fix it anywhere from 2mins to 2 hours.
Awesome, this is all great feedback. I definitely dont mind paying a little extra for a reliable machine. After all i have no idea how to fix anything major that is wrong with it. Ive been useing a La Marzocco for the last 3 years, and its been pretty reliable. All though at the this very moment theres something wrong with one of the groups. Its pulling shots that are a lot longer than the other 2. Backwashing and cleaning it will fix it anywhere from 2mins to 2 hours. Jordan Jed said:Do you realiz…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-10:1688216:Comment:7166302009-12-10T01:39:03.439ZBradyhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Brady
<cite>Jordan Jed said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso#1688216Comment715494"><div>Do you realize you mentioned almost every big name out there? I will also be looking for a new (or used) machine fairly soon. Can you suggest a machine around $4,000. There will be a fast paced drive thru, mostly lattes and caps, if that matters.</div>
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Yep... that's about right. All machines have some benefits and fans, or else they…
<cite>Jordan Jed said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso#1688216Comment715494"><div>Do you realize you mentioned almost every big name out there? I will also be looking for a new (or used) machine fairly soon. Can you suggest a machine around $4,000. There will be a fast paced drive thru, mostly lattes and caps, if that matters.</div>
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Yep... that's about right. All machines have some benefits and fans, or else they wouldn't be in business.<br />
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For a fast paced drive-thru, I'd say make sure it is a big boiler and quick steamer. Forget the two groups... you'll be 3 group territory. You'll probably need to bump that dollar figure a bit, sorry to say. No skimping here. Ask yourself how long you can afford to have it be broken... time is money.<br />
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Ask around for recommendations for a trustworthy tech and see what they have. Sadly, there are a fair number of good, gently-used machines on the market (probably about to be more soon). A top-quality used machine can represent a good value assuming that it is not very old, has been well cared for, and has been checked out thoroughly by said tech. However, there is still lots of garbage out there as well, so tread very, very carefully if you go this route. I'd insist that you have the opportunity to use the machine before buying it so that you can be sure that it works as advertised, then give it a thorough check yourself. Buy it from the guy that is going to install it... if something is wrong, they'll be there to account for it in person. And allow plenty of time for something to go wrong at install.<br />
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That said, the new machine market is kinda soft right now. There are lots of dealers out there that haven't sold a machine in months, so you might just be able to negotiate a pretty sweet deal on something new. Its coming up on inventory tax time, after all...<br />
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OK, enough dithering. Best solid, get-the-job-done commercial espresso machine? The Linea. Honorable mention to everyone else already mentioned: Simonelli Aurelia, Astoria Argenta, Rancilio Classe 8... each has positives and negatives. Good luck. LOL
James Liu said:LM 4 grou…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-09:1688216:Comment:7163482009-12-09T21:43:55.871ZPaul Yateshttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/PaulYates
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<cite>James Liu said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A716034&x=1#1688216Comment716034"><div>LM 4 group Lineas are plentiful and cheap. Starbucks used to have thousands of them, and they sell cheaper than 2 & 3 groups used. You need a lot of counter space to use them, but if you have to steam a lot of milk, having that huge steam boiler will come in handy.<br></br> <br></br> I hear that's…</div>
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<cite>James Liu said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A716034&x=1#1688216Comment716034"><div>LM 4 group Lineas are plentiful and cheap. Starbucks used to have thousands of them, and they sell cheaper than 2 & 3 groups used. You need a lot of counter space to use them, but if you have to steam a lot of milk, having that huge steam boiler will come in handy.<br/> <br/>
I hear that's why Sbux used 4 group machines, because otherwise they couldn't get the steam throughput they needed for all the 20 oz lattes they served.</div>
</blockquote> LM 4 group Lineas are plentif…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-09:1688216:Comment:7160342009-12-09T17:03:56.042ZJames Liuhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JamesLiu
LM 4 group Lineas are plentiful and cheap. Starbucks used to have thousands of them, and they sell cheaper than 2 & 3 groups used. You need a lot of counter space to use them, but if you have to steam a lot of milk, having that huge steam boiler will come in handy.<br />
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I hear that's why Sbux used 4 group machines, because otherwise they couldn't get the steam throughput they needed for all the 20 oz lattes they served.
LM 4 group Lineas are plentiful and cheap. Starbucks used to have thousands of them, and they sell cheaper than 2 & 3 groups used. You need a lot of counter space to use them, but if you have to steam a lot of milk, having that huge steam boiler will come in handy.<br />
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I hear that's why Sbux used 4 group machines, because otherwise they couldn't get the steam throughput they needed for all the 20 oz lattes they served. Paul,
I work with Chris in mu…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-09:1688216:Comment:7159502009-12-09T15:45:40.615ZChris DeMarsehttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/ChrisDeMarse
Paul,<br />
I work with Chris in muncie. We love our Aurelia digital, but they are nearly the same price as a GB/5 or a synesso cyncra. I don't know that there is much price discrepancy in top end machines, but at that level it seems as though it might just come down to preference in terms of features or needs.<br />
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<cite>Paul Yates said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso#1688216Comment715415"><div>I am still a rookie, but I can tell you…</div>
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Paul,<br />
I work with Chris in muncie. We love our Aurelia digital, but they are nearly the same price as a GB/5 or a synesso cyncra. I don't know that there is much price discrepancy in top end machines, but at that level it seems as though it might just come down to preference in terms of features or needs.<br />
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<cite>Paul Yates said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/best-commercial-espresso#1688216Comment715415"><div>I am still a rookie, but I can tell you this....brace yourself. LOL<br/> <br/>
Still, the La Marzocco Linea is the workhorse of the industry. The LM GB/5 is a big hit. Personally, the FB/80 I used at Counter Culture's Training Center is by far my favorite. Just love it.<br/>
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What am I going to put in my shop? Since I am also having to consider cost, probably a Nuova Simonelli Aurelia, 2 group, without the smart wand.<br/>
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Chris Deferio has one in his new shop in Muncie, IN. Vecinos is the name. Love that shop. Hope to visit it someday.</div>
</blockquote> In the Cafes I was part of we…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-12-09:1688216:Comment:7159132009-12-09T15:04:53.783ZMark Jacksonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/MarkJackson
In the Cafes I was part of we had all LaMarzoccos,you cant go wrong. The Simonelli is a well respected machine. The Synesso and Slayer are also great. I really like the Dalla Corte and people that have them love them. I don't think you could go wrong with any of these machines. I agree get a good (great) machine get well trained and realize that your reputation and ultimately how well you do is based on how good you are and a big part of that is going to be based on the right tools. I always…
In the Cafes I was part of we had all LaMarzoccos,you cant go wrong. The Simonelli is a well respected machine. The Synesso and Slayer are also great. I really like the Dalla Corte and people that have them love them. I don't think you could go wrong with any of these machines. I agree get a good (great) machine get well trained and realize that your reputation and ultimately how well you do is based on how good you are and a big part of that is going to be based on the right tools. I always thought getting a good grinder as well was enough and after being lucky enough to play with a lot of different conical burr grinders I can say they do make a noticeable difference in how your espresso tastes. Combine a conical burr grinder , with a stable temperature machine, a skilled barista and the opportunity to work with one of many great roasters and that will give you your best shot(every pun intended) for success.