Is there such a thing... - Barista Exchange2024-03-29T08:40:38Zhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A172199&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIf you're looking for the mos…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-02-08:1688216:Comment:7715882010-02-08T20:36:06.209ZJeremy Conleyhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JeremyConley
If you're looking for the most bang for your buck, the <a href="http://www.1st-line.com/machines/home_mod/lelit/index.htm" target="_blank">Le'Lits</a> from 1-st-line.com are hard to beat at their price point.<br />
There's a very affordable combo, the <a href="http://fricodam-gb.silkfair.com/206682">PL042</a>, as well —built in Lux grinder, fairly forgiving group, etc.<br />
The short steam wands can be a pain, initially, but being that there's a steeper learning-curve with these machines, they'll force…
If you're looking for the most bang for your buck, the <a href="http://www.1st-line.com/machines/home_mod/lelit/index.htm" target="_blank">Le'Lits</a> from 1-st-line.com are hard to beat at their price point.<br />
There's a very affordable combo, the <a href="http://fricodam-gb.silkfair.com/206682">PL042</a>, as well —built in Lux grinder, fairly forgiving group, etc.<br />
The short steam wands can be a pain, initially, but being that there's a steeper learning-curve with these machines, they'll force you to up your skills and find workarounds that will make using a commercial machine seem like cake. Hey Jason - yeah that's a gre…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-02-08:1688216:Comment:7715232010-02-08T18:53:58.338ZJeremy Meisshttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JeremyMeiss
Hey Jason - yeah that's a great setup and those new Silvia's do look nice<br />
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<cite>Jason Dominy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A771497&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment771497"><div>Easy, under $1k full home setup: Rancilio Silvia and Baratza Vario. Full quality, great espresso, and the ability to make great drinks for under a grand total. And sometimes wholelattelove.com has great deals on…</div>
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Hey Jason - yeah that's a great setup and those new Silvia's do look nice<br />
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<cite>Jason Dominy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A771497&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1688216Comment771497"><div>Easy, under $1k full home setup: Rancilio Silvia and Baratza Vario. Full quality, great espresso, and the ability to make great drinks for under a grand total. And sometimes wholelattelove.com has great deals on refurbished Silvias.</div>
</blockquote> Easy, under $1k full home set…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-02-08:1688216:Comment:7714972010-02-08T18:43:36.066ZJason Dominyhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/jdominy
Easy, under $1k full home setup: Rancilio Silvia and Baratza Vario. Full quality, great espresso, and the ability to make great drinks for under a grand total. And sometimes wholelattelove.com has great deals on refurbished Silvias.
Easy, under $1k full home setup: Rancilio Silvia and Baratza Vario. Full quality, great espresso, and the ability to make great drinks for under a grand total. And sometimes wholelattelove.com has great deals on refurbished Silvias. I highly recommend the Nuova…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-02-08:1688216:Comment:7714042010-02-08T16:37:43.620ZJeremy Meisshttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JeremyMeiss
I highly recommend the Nuova Simonelli Oscar - uses the same commercial-grade group heads and portafilters that the Aurelia/Appia/etc. use.... and it's highly consistent.<br />
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As a NS dealer, I can get you one probably 25-30% off list ($1400 List). Feel free to message me or email me (jeremy.meiss@gmail.com)
I highly recommend the Nuova Simonelli Oscar - uses the same commercial-grade group heads and portafilters that the Aurelia/Appia/etc. use.... and it's highly consistent.<br />
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As a NS dealer, I can get you one probably 25-30% off list ($1400 List). Feel free to message me or email me (jeremy.meiss@gmail.com) Chris said:Chris said:you can…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2010-01-15:1688216:Comment:7494692010-01-15T20:07:35.008ZChrishttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/Chris60
<cite>Chris said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A118139&page=-1#1688216Comment652584"><div><cite>Chris said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A119608&x=1#1688216Comment170722"><div><cite>you can generate 8.5 - 9 Bar with the Aerobee. Does that mean that if you had water at 91-96C, and leaned on your Aerobee enough…</cite></div>
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<cite>Chris said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?id=1688216%3ATopic%3A118139&page=-1#1688216Comment652584"><div><cite>Chris said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139?page=1&commentId=1688216%3AComment%3A119608&x=1#1688216Comment170722"><div><cite>you can generate 8.5 - 9 Bar with the Aerobee. Does that mean that if you had water at 91-96C, and leaned on your Aerobee enough to get 9 Bar through the puck, that you'd describe that as 'real' espresso?<br/></cite></div>
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And my point, that you can make far better espresso with a cheap machine and a great grinder than you can with a great machine and a crap grinder, still stands.</cite></div>
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So the Aerobee was a bad example. Paired with a steamer and fed from a decent grinder, the mypressi TWIST (see the thread, "The mypressi is for Real") produces shots that, if water temperature is managed well, will rival whatever you're using at your shop. New, with a stovetop steamer, one could be producing shop-quality shots for just over $200. Toss in a decent handgrinder if you don't already won a grinder, and you're producing (singly, of course) a similar product to what your $12-20,000 kit is producing at your work. The Nuova Simonelli Grinta (a…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-10-23:1688216:Comment:6656392009-10-23T18:52:07.231ZJennifer Grahamhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JenniferGraham
The Nuova Simonelli Grinta (around $333) has worked pretty well for me under heavy, daily office use. I took one look at it and thought it was just a plastic toy, but it has impressed me.<br />
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Pros: Hasn't crapped out or broken down after 1 yr. of heavy use.<br />
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Cons: Burrs can heat up after about 10 drinks in a row (moot point for home use); Breaking it down is a bit of a pain: must turn it upside down to empty the hopper, unscrew the hopper to remove it, and unscrew the entire grind adjustment cuff…
The Nuova Simonelli Grinta (around $333) has worked pretty well for me under heavy, daily office use. I took one look at it and thought it was just a plastic toy, but it has impressed me.<br />
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Pros: Hasn't crapped out or broken down after 1 yr. of heavy use.<br />
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Cons: Burrs can heat up after about 10 drinks in a row (moot point for home use); Breaking it down is a bit of a pain: must turn it upside down to empty the hopper, unscrew the hopper to remove it, and unscrew the entire grind adjustment cuff to get to the burrs.<br />
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All in all, I dig it. I tend to agree with everyone else about the espresso machine, though. You have to shell out quite a bit of dough to get one that's even worth the beans you plan to brew on it.<br />
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<cite>Gagliardi said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139#1688216Comment119755"><div>Interesting. That may be the way to go then. Is this aerobie press a new thing, or have I been living under a rock?<br/><br/>Anyone want to shout out some good grinder models?</div>
</blockquote> Check out the Baratza Vario f…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-10-23:1688216:Comment:6655612009-10-23T17:30:31.128ZJames Liuhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JamesLiu
Check out the Baratza Vario for the grinder.<br />
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<a href="http://www.baratza.com/products.php?itemid=31">http://www.baratza.com/products.php?itemid=31</a>
Check out the Baratza Vario for the grinder.<br />
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<a href="http://www.baratza.com/products.php?itemid=31">http://www.baratza.com/products.php?itemid=31</a> "http://www.bod.intlcn.org"…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-10-23:1688216:Comment:6655342009-10-23T16:56:36.906ZRon Ingberhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/RonIngber
"http://www.bod.intlcn.org"<br />
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This link does not work for me. Any idea what the correct URL is?<br />
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"http://www.bod.intlcn.org"<br />
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This link does not work for me. Any idea what the correct URL is?<br />
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Ron, the Country Guy I'm having brewtus III home.…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-10-12:1688216:Comment:6529902009-10-12T04:54:52.300ZJoona Suominenhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/JoonaSuominen
I'm having brewtus III home. It's not quite the GB5 that I'm working with but nevertheless I couldn't be more happier with it. Brewtus III is propably the cheapest dual boiler machine available. There's a bunch of high end HX-machines for the same price too if you don't mind the flushing.<br />
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<cite>Chris DeMarse said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139#1688216Comment118217"><div>If you're looking for a home machine that is both reasonable in…</div>
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I'm having brewtus III home. It's not quite the GB5 that I'm working with but nevertheless I couldn't be more happier with it. Brewtus III is propably the cheapest dual boiler machine available. There's a bunch of high end HX-machines for the same price too if you don't mind the flushing.<br />
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<cite>Chris DeMarse said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.baristaexchange.com/forum/topics/1688216:Topic:118139#1688216Comment118217"><div>If you're looking for a home machine that is both reasonable in price and solid in cunstruction with the desireability of a semi-auto group, you might want to check out the Expobar Brewtus II. It has a two boiler system, which means that your brew boiler is not subject to overheating like the heat exchanger machines. It has a finger lever group, so can actually control preinfusion times before engaging the pump for your extraction. It has a commercial grade pump instead of a vibe pump (if i remember correctly), so your extractions will be consistent in terms of pressure. I would say, though, that cheap is quite a relative term in this world. You might expect to spend 13-1400 on this machine without a grinder. However, it's the next best thing, in my opinion, to spending 7,500 for a La Marzocco Gs3 with similar results.</div>
</blockquote> My first home machine was a R…tag:www.baristaexchange.com,2009-10-12:1688216:Comment:6527222009-10-12T00:16:33.896ZStefanie Masonhttps://www.baristaexchange.com/profile/StefanieMason
My first home machine was a Rancilio Silvia that only cost me $350, and I loved it dearly. It can only do one temp (brew or steam) at a time and requires a little effort to get used to its temperature fluctuations, but it was great and it still holds a special place in my heart. My upgrade was to a dual boiler La Spaziale Vivaldi II from Chris Coffee and I have not had any problems with it, but it was in the $1500 range and not $350. Good luck!
My first home machine was a Rancilio Silvia that only cost me $350, and I loved it dearly. It can only do one temp (brew or steam) at a time and requires a little effort to get used to its temperature fluctuations, but it was great and it still holds a special place in my heart. My upgrade was to a dual boiler La Spaziale Vivaldi II from Chris Coffee and I have not had any problems with it, but it was in the $1500 range and not $350. Good luck!